What you'll learn
"How do I support the transition home when we still have homework and bath time?" "How do I help my child self-regulate after masking all day?" "How do I not overreact?" Parents brought these questions to a packed Kinspire workshop on the after-school meltdown. Underneath all of them was the same concern: why does my child come home and fall apart, and what do I do when they do?
- Why kids can hold it together all day at school and unravel the moment they get home
- How the Dynamic Dozen of executive functions and the sensory load of a school day drain your child's tank
- What masking is, and why every bit of it pokes another hole in the tank
- Why the meltdown lands on you, and what it says about how safe your child feels at home
- The first 30 minutes: lower demands, help the body regulate, make what's next predictable, and let your presence do more than your words
- How to decide what to pause, and how to bring your child into the plan
- Two real case studies: a sensory-sensitive nine-year-old who still has homework and a bath ahead, and a 12-year-old with ADHD who can't get off the Xbox
Key concepts
Terms from this episode, explained simply.
The empty tank
Lily's gas tank analogy: every demand, transition, and sensory input burns fuel all day. Kids with sensory or executive function differences start with a smaller tank, so by the bell they're running on fumes. A car out of gas sputters and stops. That's the meltdown at the door.
The Dynamic Dozen
The 12 executive functions kids use all school day, like planning, organizing, attention, and working memory. Jill compares it to navigating a new city on vacation: by evening, you're exhausted.
Masking
Trying to look like peers who aren't bothered by the noise, the clothes, or the social cues. Every act of masking pokes a small hole in the tank, so it drains even faster.
Home is safe
Your child falls apart with you because home is where their nervous system knows it can let go. The meltdown at your door is a sign of safety and attachment, not a failure of parenting.
Connection before correction
Before homework, chores, or activities, take a few minutes to connect without expectations. A snack together, shared music, or sitting in silence all count. It doesn't have to take long.
Lower demands, not standards
Give 20 to 30 minutes of genuinely low-demand time when your child gets home. It isn't permissive parenting. Homework still happens, just not yet. You can't draw water from an empty well.
Help the body regulate
What refuels the tank looks different for every child: running around a park, quiet time in their room, or a show they can transition away from. Put on your regulation glasses and watch what helps.
Predictability
Knowing what the afternoon looks like (time to relax, then homework, then an errand) lets your child stop holding the plan in their head and stop bracing for the next demand.
Your presence matters more than your words
Kids co-regulate with you. A stream of questions passes your anxiety to them. A warm greeting, a lower voice, slower movements, and calm nearness tell their nervous system it's safe to come down.
The regulation sandwich
Before a hard task, front-load movement or deep pressure. Do the hard task. Then follow it with something calming. Lily's example: roll a yoga ball over a touch-sensitive child before bath time.
Plan together, never in the moment
Talk through the afternoon with your child when everyone is calm. Try a plan for several days, look for a pattern, and adjust together. You're never stuck with the first idea.
Show notes
Episode notes & resources.
Episode 4 takes on one of the hardest windows of the day: the after-school meltdown. Jennifer, Lily, and Jill explain why so many kids hold it together at school and fall apart at home, and how to meet a depleted child with a softer landing instead of more demands.
You'll hear how executive function demands, sensory load, and masking drain your child's tank across the school day, why the meltdown lands at your door, and what to do in the first 30 minutes home: lower demands, help the body regulate, make the afternoon predictable, and connect before you correct. Then Lily and Jill coach through two questions from the workshop: a sensory-sensitive nine-year-old with autism who still has homework and a bath ahead, and a 12-year-old with ADHD who can't get off his video game.
Download the 30-Minute Safe Landing Guide below to put the episode into practice this week. Want a full episode on screen time? Tell us on the podcast page.
Try this this week
One change for one week. Don't rebuild the whole afternoon. For the first few days, just observe the first 30 minutes home: what it looks like now, the first demand your child gets at the door, and what their body seems to need. Then change one thing, and remember Jill's reframe: your child isn't doing this to you. They feel safe enough to let their guard down.
Instead of asking:
“Why does my child save this for me?”
Try:
“My child feels safe here. What does their tank need right now?”
Episode outline
- What parents asked before the after-school meltdown workshop
- Why kids hold it together at school and fall apart at home
- The Dynamic Dozen, and the new-city analogy
- The gas tank: how sensory load burns fuel all day
- Masking, and why it drains the tank faster
- What dysregulation looks like when the tank is empty
- Why the meltdown lands on you: home is safe
- Connection before correction
- The first 30 minutes: lower demands, help the body regulate
- Predictability, and why your presence matters more than your words
- Choosing what to pause, and planning it with your child
- Case study: a sensory-sensitive nine-year-old, homework, and bath time
- Case study: a 12-year-old with ADHD who can't get off the Xbox
- Try this week: one change for one week · reframe, then observe
Mentioned in this episode
About the hosts
Lily Baiser, MS, OTR/L is Kinspire's Co-Founder and Chief Clinical Officer — a pediatric occupational therapist with deep expertise in regulation and sensory processing. Jill Gitten Aloia, PhD, ABPP-CN is Kinspire's Chief Neuropsychologist, with decades of experience connecting behavior, executive function, and the developing brain. Jennifer Mingucci hosts Built For Your Family™.
Transcript
Full episode transcript.
Jennifer
Welcome to Built For Your Family™, an original podcast by Kinspire. I'm Jennifer Mingucci, and I have the privilege of leading our incredible community of parents raising outside-the-box kids. These are parents navigating developmental differences, delays, diagnoses like autism, ADHD, sensory processing challenges, learning differences, or sometimes just the feeling that traditional parenting advice doesn't quite fit their child. And if that's your story, you belong here with support built for your family.
Jennifer
Recently, we hosted a packed Kinspire parenting workshop on a topic that clearly hit home for our families: the after-school meltdown. Before the session even started, parents were writing in with questions that captured just how hard this window of the day can be. They asked, "How do I support the transition home, especially when we still have non-preferred things to do, like homework and bath time? How do I help my child self-regulate after masking all day? How do I not overreact during the after-school meltdown?" And one parent of a 12-year-old asked whether to push him toward the rest of the routine or just let him play video games, because trying to get him to do anything else was going to be a giant struggle.
Jennifer
Different ages, different families, different behaviors. Underneath all of them was the same concern: "Why does my child come home and completely fall apart? And what am I supposed to do when they do?" The framework from that workshop started with a simple idea: the first 30 minutes home matter enormously. Rather than meeting a depleted child with more demands, we can create a softer landing, lower the pressure, support their sensory and regulation needs, and prioritize connection before problem-solving. In today's episode, we're going to explain what may be happening in your child's body and brain after a full day of school, why some children seem to hold it together at school and then unravel the moment they get home, how to create a safe landing, what to try in those first 30 minutes, and just as importantly, what to pause until later. And we'll take some of the real questions parents brought to us in the workshop and make the strategies practical for everyday use. So let's jump right in.
Jennifer
Dr. Jill, I want to start with a question so many parents are asking. Why can my child keep it together throughout the entire school day and then completely fall apart the minute they step inside? What is going on there? Because there were so many people slow-nodding at this session that I knew we had tapped into something.
Dr. Jill
Yeah. For everyone, and especially for kids who struggle with executive functions, we have a certain amount of regulation, of attention, of ability to manage our executive functions during the day. And in some ways it's a great sign. I'd say pat yourself on the back if your kid is holding it together all day and then falling apart at home. You might say, "Why would I pat myself on the back?" It's because you've raised your child to understand that they should try very hard during the school day, and they are. But it's difficult for them, because there are what we call the Dynamic Dozen of executive functions that kids are having to use throughout the day. They're having to plan what they're going to do next: should they go to their locker now, or later? They're having to organize their materials: where do they put them in their backpack? They're having to pay attention, and use working memory to keep things in mind while the teacher's talking so they can write them down. Now, I just named four of them, and there are 12 altogether. That's really draining the child's system. By the time they get home at the end of the school day, they're just exhausted.
Dr. Jill
So let me give you an analogy, because I think what happens for a lot of us is we think, "Why can't they just do this during the day and keep doing it at home?" Imagine you go on a trip and suddenly you're in a new city. The sounds are different. You're having to pay attention to a lot more. You don't know the streets or exactly where everything is. You're planning out your schedule and reading signs. You're really draining your executive function system. That's what a school day is like for children who struggle with executive functions, on a much more regular basis. And what do you do at the end of that day of traveling? You go back to the hotel and lie in bed exhausted, or sit on the couch. That same feeling is what your kid has. You might not feel that way on an everyday workday, if it's familiar to you. But when it's hard and you're really having to tap into those executive functions, it drains you. That's what's going on for our kids who struggle with executive function. They get to the end of the day and their regulation tank is empty, and that's why the time when they come home is so key: how do we refill that tank before we ask more of those executive functions?
Jennifer
Lily, can you tell us what is contributing from a sensory standpoint to make that tank go from full to empty by the time they get home to us? What are they encountering at school?
Lily
I like to use a similar analogy, because I think it paints a nice picture. I really think about the body like a gas tank, and your child's tank has been burning fuel all day. Every single thing Jill described, in addition to all the sensory pieces, is burning fuel: the noise in the hallway, the transitions between classes, sitting in a chair that may not feel good to their body, fluorescent lights, the smells in the cafeteria, just the physical closeness to other kids. All of that is burning gas. And for our kids who have sensory differences or executive functioning challenges, their tanks start the day smaller, so it takes more fuel to manage the same environment their classmates move through without even noticing. So by the time the bell rings, they're not just tired. They're truly running on fumes. And what happens when a car is out of gas? It stops. It sputters. It doesn't cooperate. That is the meltdown at the door. That's the explosion you might experience in the car. The child who can't answer a single question without completely losing it. You just say, "How was your day?" and they blow up. Their tank is truly empty, and there's nothing left for any additional demand.
Jennifer
I think it matters so much to understand that, so every parent can reframe what they're looking at. You both gave really tangible examples for us to put ourselves in our kids' shoes, so we can get into what they're experiencing in their body and their brain. It makes the part of our day that's hardest so understandable.
Jennifer
Our community brought up a lot in the session about their child self-regulating and masking all day at school. Dr. Jill, could you help us understand what masking is and why it depletes our tank so much?
Dr. Jill
You hear this term most often associated with autism, but you can also hear it associated with ADHD or other diagnoses. What's happening is that the child is trying to present like their more typically developing peers. Maybe they're struggling with that sensory component, and like Lily said, all that noise is overwhelming them. They don't want to walk through the halls with their hands over their ears, but actually, they really do want to walk through the halls with their hands over their ears. Masking is trying to present as if it's not a problem for them, and that drains their regulation system. They're trying to stay regulated even though the sound is bothering them, even though the feel of their clothes is bothering them, even though they're struggling to read social cues from their friends. They're putting in a lot more effort and attention to be part of the group during recess, when what they want to do is sit off to the side and reregulate. While everyone else is going about their day, no problem, all of that masking is draining the tank more and more. I like to think about it like each and every thing they're having to do to mask is poking a little hole in the tank. You can picture the gas flowing out so quickly that by the time they get home, they're running on fumes, like Lily said.
Jennifer
Lily, when we're running on fumes, what is happening in our sensory system, inside our nervous system, with regulation? What is going on for our kids when they come home with nothing in that tank?
Lily
That is called dysregulation. They have no tools, no fuel left in them to keep it together. And that doesn't mean they didn't have those tools at a different point. But we often see our kids being what we as parents would call a mess. They're crying, they're emotional about so many things, they're running all over the house. They might be jumping off the couch. They're saying no to us. We ask them to sit down and eat a snack, and they're yelling at us, and sometimes they're disrespectful. These are kids who are so dysregulated. So we really need to think about how we can help their nervous system regulate and get their system into a more organized state, so they can actually accept questions and other demands. It's helpful to understand their sensory profile so we can make better-informed decisions about which activities are going to refuel their tank.
Jennifer
All of that can vary so much from kiddo to kiddo. Lily, in that session you had a really critical reframe that I want to make sure we touch on. So many parents are feeling, "Why does my child save this meltdown for me? Why is this all landing at my doorstep, quite literally and figuratively?" What do you want parents to understand about that?
Lily
What's really happening is that home is safe, and you are safe, and their nervous system knows that. We know what it takes for them to keep it all together, and the second they see you, all of that effort just melts. They let it go because they know you will always love them no matter what. They feel safe enough to let everything go and be their true selves.
Jennifer
This is so important. Dr. Jill, listening to Lily talk about this, I'm actually feeling so emotional, thinking about this complete reframe: the worst part of my day, dealing with this meltdown at the doorstep, is because they actually feel safe enough. I know this goes back to the Precision Parenting™ pillar of Connection. What could you add?
Dr. Jill
I think what we often do as parents is think about the next thing we need our child to do. They've come home, and we need them to do their homework. They have chores. We need them to get ready for their after-school activity. Our mind goes right to the next thing. But each of those things requires regulation first, and then a lot of executive functions loaded on top of that. Instead, we can pause and think, "My child just needs to connect for a minute." And maybe it is one minute. That's an important point. We often think, "I don't have time. We have to get to the next thing." But it doesn't need to take a lot of time. We know from research that just a few minutes of connection without expectations is really important.
Dr. Jill
One of the lines you hear us say all the time is connection before correction. If you're about to ask them to do something and they don't have the regulation or the executive functions, you're likely going to end up correcting them. So instead, connect with them before you even think about expectations. Maybe that's sitting down with them for a snack. You don't even have to be talking, because they might be overwhelmed from their day. Even with my own kids in high school, you pick them up and say, "How was your day?" and the answer you're going to get is, "Fine." They've just had the whole day. They don't want to re-live it the moment they get in the car and no longer have to pay attention to everything they were paying attention to at school. That question can come later. Instead, it might be turning on music you both enjoy, having a snack together, or just sitting in silence. That's okay, too. That can be connection. It doesn't have to be complex.
Jennifer
I think it would be great for us to laser-focus on these first 30 minutes home. School ends, you pick your child up, and you're in this critical time period. Lily, I know one of your first recommendations is to lower demands immediately. Tell me what you mean by that, and how to make it tangible for parents.
Lily
Think about it this way: every single demand burns gas, and their tank is already empty, so there's no more gas to burn. When a child comes home and the first thing that happens is, "How was your day? Do you have homework? Did you remember to give your teacher the note?" every one of those things is a demand on a nervous system that has nothing left to give right then. Your child is not being difficult or uncooperative. They have just reached their limit. There is no more gas. Lowering demands is not permissive parenting. I really want to make that clear. It's not letting your child off the hook. It's recognizing that you cannot draw water from an empty well. The demands are still going to happen. You're still going to ask them about their homework, just not in that moment. The timing matters enormously.
Lily
If you can give your child 20 to 30 minutes of genuinely low-demand time right when they walk in, or right in the car, wherever you feel it would work best, that's going to be really beneficial for the rest of the afternoon. You don't want it to be structured or goal-oriented. It's just time to decompress and refuel a little. And this is going to look different for every child, which is really important. Some kids are going to need to stop at a park and run around, and for them, that is what refuels their system. Other kids might truly need to sit in their room in peace and quiet and just chill. Other kids might need to watch a show for 20 minutes, and if they can transition away from it easily, that's what they need. So again, we need to be a detective, put on our regulation glasses, understand what's best for our child, and then give them that time after school to decompress.
Jennifer
So that first piece was reducing demands, and the second piece you started to introduce was helping the body regulate, which can look wildly different per child and per day. Dr. Jill, I know the third step here is predictability. Why does knowing what comes next help a nervous system settle?
Dr. Jill
Part of it is executive functioning. Say a child struggles with time management and predicting time, and you tell them, "We're just going to stop and run an errand after school," when they were thinking, "I just need to lie in my room," or, "I just need to run around outside." They don't necessarily have a sense of when that's going to happen. If you give them predictability, a sense of what the schedule is going to look like, so they know first we're going home and you'll have time to run around or relax, then we'll do homework, or then we need to run an errand, they can regulate around the idea of what their afternoon looks like, and they don't have to hold all of that information in mind. You can add a lot of detail, like making a visual schedule so they don't have to remember those pieces. But just giving them predictability about the afternoon, and for many kids keeping it fairly regular at first, can be helpful. When they have that information, they can let go of the anxiety about what's coming next and when the next demand is coming, the one they don't have any gas in the tank for right now.
Jennifer
Jill, I want to repeat some of your words from the session back to you. You said, "Your presence matters more than your words." Now, I'm a verbal person, if you couldn't tell from this podcast. I love words. Why do we so often want to ask questions, explain, correct, and problem-solve right away? Why might less talking actually help more in the moment? Convince me, a lover of words, that I should use fewer of them in these moments.
Dr. Jill
Part of it is the idea of co-regulation. How we're presenting ourselves is what our kids are picking up on. If we're presenting as, "What happened at school? What did the teacher do? Did you turn in the form?" then what they're feeling is, "Did I do this? Did I do that?" That same anxiety you're giving off with all the questions is what they pick up, and it's not helping to refuel their tank. As Lily said, it's another demand. It's poking another hole in the tank, and more of that gas runs out. Instead, if you're calmly near them, or, if your child likes it, bringing a joyful energy around music or something, that's going to help fill them up. Now, some kids do like to talk, so I never like to speak in absolutes. We don't want to say never ask questions. Maybe you have the kind of kid who gets in the car and wants to tell you all about their day. Then having a conversation is great, because that fills them up. Maybe it's something they look forward to. But like Lily said, the key is putting on those regulation glasses and looking at your kid. Do your questions make them more anxious, more dysregulated? Then you probably should cut back on the questions.
Jennifer
And Lily, I know you also talk about the tools we have in our own toolbox: a warm, low-key greeting, less talking, staying regulated ourselves. Can you paint a picture? We're in the car line, they get in, and now it's my turn to drive away. What are some things I could do to create the environment you're talking about?
Lily
This is the hardest thing for parents, and I really think for everyone. Our kids are upset, we want to talk it through with them, and we just want to help. In practical terms, maybe you don't say anything for a few minutes. You put on music they like, or you drive in a comfortable quiet. When they walk through the door, maybe it's just, "Hey, I'm glad you're home," and then you move into the kitchen without an agenda. You're close, you're warm, you're available, but you're not demanding anything from them, including conversation. And if they're already escalating, if their voice is getting loud and their body's getting tense, lower your own voice instead of matching theirs. Slow your movements and soften your face. These are all nervous system signals that tell them they're safe and can come back down. That's the co-regulation piece Dr. Jill was talking about. They're constantly reading our body language, and if we start to escalate, guess what's going to happen? They're definitely going to escalate. So we have to be really conscious of it. I know it's super hard, and we're human. We're not going to be perfect all the time, so don't beat yourself up. Just do your best to stay as calm and regulated as you can.
Jennifer
This time of day can be so daunting, because, Dr. Jill, like you touched on earlier, there's homework, then there are activities. I've got to get to baseball. Dinner has to happen. Maybe something happened at school that needs to be addressed. How do we distinguish between postponing a demand until a child has capacity and avoiding it altogether? It's this weird dance where we're trying to be accommodating, but like Lily said, we don't want to be permissive parents who let everything go. How do I choose what to pause?
Dr. Jill
On an overall level, it can be helpful to actually have a conversation with your child about this, but not in the moment. That's the key: never in the moment they're dysregulated. If they come home from school totally dysregulated, or you bring up homework and they start to get dysregulated, that's not the time. But at another time, you can talk it through with them, because they might not think about what an afternoon actually involves. They want time to play, they need time to do homework, they have baseball practice, you have to cook dinner. Where do all those things fall? So you can ask, "Should we try doing homework right away, or do you want time to play first? We'll need to get homework done before baseball practice, because that leads right into dinner, so you'll need to transition away from playing."
Dr. Jill
The one thing I'll say that's really important is that you're not stuck with whatever they come up with, and you want to present it to them that way. "Okay, great. Let's try doing homework right after school this week." Maybe it works one day and doesn't work the next. You want to look for a pattern, so try it for several days. If it works, great, stick with it. If it doesn't, you can go back to your child and say, "You know what? We gave it a great try doing homework right after school. It seems like it might be better to start with things that help you feel more regulated, like going to the park, sitting quietly in your room, or playing with a friend, and then do homework later. Let's give that a try." You're never stuck. You have the flexibility to try it out different ways. And bringing your child in as part of the decision-making can help them be more motivated to try what you're asking of them.
Jennifer
And Lily, I know you're so good at letting parents off the hook and giving them some permission. What are some things you would absolutely say, "Pause on that. Let's not do this in the first 30 minutes"? What could we push off?
Lily
I think it really depends on your child. But if you make a list of all the things you want to happen and then prioritize them, that can give you a lot of insight into the things that are less meaningful or unnecessary during the week. Maybe those things can be pushed to the weekend, when there are fewer demands. But I do think talking to your kid, like Dr. Jill said, is going to be the most successful piece. My husband tends to have the strategy of, "We're doing this now," and it never works. When we bring my daughter in and she creates the plan, it's about 90% successful, because she's bought in. She problem-solved it, and that's so much more motivating for her.
Jennifer
And they're so creative. Their ideas are often next level. Now we're going on to my favorite segment of the show, where I serve up case studies from families we help and get real coaching and insights from Lily and Dr. Jill on this topic. Here's a little insight into this family. We have a nine-year-old who's autistic, and the parent is asking for support with the transition home when non-preferred activities like homework or bathing still have to happen. This child is deeply sensory sensitive, and showering and bathing feel like a real battle. Walk us through how you might structure the afternoon, given that we know bathing has to happen at the end of the night, and we, quote-unquote, "have to" do homework, which is also non-preferred. How could we support this nine-year-old friend of ours?
Dr. Jill
Before we even talk about solutions, one thing I want to throw out there is that parents should remember they have the freedom to be flexible themselves. What I mean is, you say bathing, and most of us think: go to school, do homework, eat dinner, bathe at the end of the night. That's literally what this parent put in her submission. But what if bathing works best for this kid right after school? What if, because of the sensory component, with dim lights in the bathroom or a nice scent or whatever works, the bath can actually be calming? They come home, they get the bath out of the way, and it becomes a regulating activity. We often get locked into thinking we have to get these things done in a certain order. I have a family I've worked with recently where the best time to do homework was in the morning. For some parents, that's really anxiety-provoking: how can we leave it to the next day? But their kid tended to be most regulated in the morning, so they did homework while eating breakfast. Just remember that creativity around these things is more than okay.
Jennifer
I think that's always the mindset shift we need to remember, because we get so hooked on how things, quote-unquote, "should" be. We should all over ourselves. Lily, what are your takeaways, knowing this profile? Where might you begin this afternoon, at school pickup?
Lily
It sounds like this child is really sensitive to tactile input, so we have to consider that in our plan. When a child is sensitive to touch, you really want to front-load with a lot of deep pressure and heavy work. You can take a yoga ball and roll it over the child right before the bath, because that helps regulate his system and prepare it for the tactile input. Whenever there's a difficult task, you always want to front-load it with movement, or something regulating. Movement is the regulating piece for most children, so it's a pretty safe bet: build in movement first, then do the hard task, and then right after the hard task, build in a more calming, regulating activity. It's like a sandwich: a regulating activity, then the more challenging one, then a regulating activity again. So I'd look at this routine and leave some space before and after bathing, and make sure his body is prepared to bathe.
Jennifer
Dr. Jill, you've both brought up collaborating with the kid. Is there anything you'd suggest for previewing, or something the parent could talk through with him? What might you say to someone who's only nine about, "Hey, we're going to have to bathe at the end of the night"?
Dr. Jill
It's funny that you said he's only nine, because I was thinking about it in the opposite direction: this is great, he's nine, he can actually have this conversation. If they're super little, like a preschooler, it's hard. But once you have a kid in elementary school, you can ask for his input: "When do you think would be the best time to take a bath? We have three options." You want to lay it out and give some structure. Again, it's not permissive parenting. It's not saying we're never going to bathe. That's not happening. And maybe this kid doesn't have to bathe every day. Maybe it's Monday, Wednesday, Friday, and one day on the weekend. Then you say, "When do you think might work best? Right after school? Right before bed?" Offer maybe three times. Then make sure you say, "We're going to give it a try for a couple of days." Like Lily said earlier, we never want to try something just once, because there can be a lot of reasons it didn't work that time. And if it doesn't work at that time, we'll try one of the other times. You might have a feeling as a parent that late at night is never going to work, because that's when you always end up fighting. But you want to give him that voice and that buy-in. And name it before you do it: "Don't forget, we agreed bath time is going to be at bedtime, so we've got to do these other things first."
Jennifer
And if it's not working, have the conversation about trying a different time. But as we always say, the key is not to have that conversation in the middle of a meltdown. Have it at a different time, when everyone is calm.
Jennifer
I have another case, because one is never enough. We want to show how different kids are and how different families are, because that's the real thread behind Precision Parenting™: there isn't one answer, no one-size-fits-all. Even within the one idea of regulating before the non-preferred activity, what you do is going to be incredibly different per child.
Dr. Jill
Even within a family. Parents need to remember that, too. You could have two kids, one who needs one thing and another who needs something wildly different.
Lily
That's usually what actually happens. Just to make it fun for us.
Jennifer
Exactly. Okay, case two is a 12-year-old with ADHD. He comes home with lots of energy, and all he wants to do is get on and play his video games. The Xbox comes out, and the parent cannot get him off the game. She said she knows he's hungry, but he'll ignore his hunger cues, even when it's getting close to dinnertime, because he wants to keep playing. This is an interesting after-school piece, because he's not coming home upset. He's excited to be home, because he gets to play his video game. But then Mom can't get him off the game and into the rest of after-school life. Jill, how often have we heard this about screen time and outside-the-box kids? Could you give us a little normalizing?
Dr. Jill
Absolutely. And not only outside-the-box kids. Even kids who are more typical in terms of their other skills, with pretty good executive functions or who are pretty good at regulating, find that hit you get from playing the game, the dopamine, the excitement, being on with friends trying to win, such a draw. And it gets compounded when kids struggle with regulation and executive functions, like understanding time or being able to transition. So it's harder with outside-the-box kids, but it's a struggle for so many kids. Parents are not alone. That's the number one takeaway.
Jennifer
Lily, what would you take into consideration when coming up with a plan for this family?
Lily
I think it's important to understand your child and what part of this is hard. Is it transitioning away because they're hungry? Is it that they don't want to stop playing, and transitions in general are challenging? We have to understand that a little more. But the important piece is the structure and timing of the video game. Let's say your child really has a hard time transitioning away from the game in general. We might want to put it at a different time of day, when we don't have to follow it with a big demand, like, "Okay, now we're going to eat dinner," after he's already hungry, or homework right after a video game. We have to look at the day differently and figure out the best time to offer the game. It might not be during the week at all. Maybe it's four hours on the weekend, because it's just too hard to transition away. Or it might be after dinner, once everything is done, when the transition away isn't as hard because there's no homework or dinner right after. It really depends on the child. But there are some strategies that make the transition easier. I think always having a set time for video games helps, so they don't have to guess, "Am I going to get it today or not?" They know they will always have that time. And ending a video game at exactly 30 minutes is always tricky, because the time is up and they might be in the middle of a really important move or experience.
Jennifer
They're trying to get to the next level.
Lily
They're so close. And usually they're playing with other people, so they don't want to let down the friends they're playing with by suddenly turning it off.
Jennifer
Oh my gosh, such a good point, because they're all on their headsets talking to one another, so now they're in it with the rest of the group.
Lily
Right. So sometimes, as a parent, you have to be flexible and say, "Okay, you have two minutes left of your 30 minutes. Where are you in the game?" Just check in with them. They might say, "I'm in the middle of this. I need five more minutes," or, "I just want to get to this next level." And we have to be okay with saying, "Okay, I'll let you get to the next level, but once you get there, you need to turn it off." That builds trust, and then they don't feel the pressure to finish everything so quickly. I think every parent should really consider allowing those extra few minutes, because it makes the transition so much easier.
Jennifer
I feel like there are some parents, Jill, who just listened to this and are thinking, "I'm going to have to have another difficult conversation." Help us have this conversation with more ease.
Dr. Jill
Well, all of us are frustrated with these video games that capture our kids' attention. They're designed for that. But for many kids, they're also useful. They're a place where kids socialize and meet up with friends. So even though we said earlier to think about the right time for your kid to play, and if it's really hard for them to get off before baseball practice you don't want them starting right after school, it's another important conversation to have. Many kids will say, "But all my friends are on right after school." Going on at night feels useless to them. It defeats the purpose. So it helps to recognize that this is an important part of their socialization, if it is, and to take their input and collaborate with them. With older kids, like middle schoolers, I think this is where it has the biggest impact. You can say, "I want to honor that this is important for you to do after school. How can you honor that I don't want to have a big fight before baseball practice?" It's true collaboration. You're really hearing them, and you're asking them to really hear you. And the biggest thing is having that conversation when you're not in the middle of the stress. It's not when you're yelling at them to get off, and it's not when they've finally gotten off and you're on the way to practice. Maybe it's at night when everyone is calm, or on the weekend after they've had several hours of game time, they're feeling good, and they trust they'll get the time they wanted. That's when you have the conversation.
Jennifer
That already makes my shoulders drop a little. And if this is a topic you'd like us to expand on, head to kinspirehealth.com/podcast. There's a form there. If you'd like an episode dedicated to screen time, I think it could be a really great topic for us to explore.
Jennifer
To end today's episode, we're going to do our final segment: one thing we can all take with us and try in the week ahead. Today is really a simple experiment. One change for one week. Not rebuilding the entire afternoon, not solving every behavior. Just observing the first 30 minutes and adjusting one thing. Lily, if a parent wants to try this tomorrow, and you've gotten them hooked on trying a safe landing, what's one change they could make to the environment in the first 30 minutes home?
Lily
I would say first, be an observer and be a detective. Give yourself a few days to observe what's going on and what they're gravitating toward. That's going to give you more information and more data about how to actually make that one change.
Jennifer
Dr. Jill, for our families who are open to trying a safe landing, what's one thing they should consider or try this week?
Dr. Jill
One thing parents should consider is that their child is not doing this to them because they're oppositional. Rather, they feel safe enough when they get home to let their guard down. Having that mind shift can be really helpful, so you can brainstorm and work with your kid on what's going to work best. If we see our kids not as the enemy we need to get to listen to us, but as kids whose tanks are empty and who need our support, it makes it easier to take that first step and be the observer.
Jennifer
So we're going to reframe, and then we're going to observe, and hopefully we'll hear from people in our community about how it's going.
Jennifer
Thank you for tuning in to Built For Your Family™. Today we talked about a moment that can feel incredibly confusing for parents: a child who gets through school and then falls apart at home. Here's the reframe I hope you take with you this week. The meltdown at your door may not be evidence that the day went wrong, or that you're doing something wrong. It may be your child's body telling you, "I held it together all day. I'm safe now. I'm home." So before you jump into homework, questions, corrections, and logistics, look at the landing. Lower the demands, notice what their body needs, make the next step predictable, and remember that in those first few minutes home, your presence matters more than your words. You don't have to redesign the whole afternoon tonight. Try one change for the week, observe what happens, adjust, and keep learning what helps your child come home to themselves.
Jennifer
As always, if there's a topic you'd like Lily and Dr. Jill to cover, like the screen time topic we talked about earlier, we'd love to hear from you. Visit us at kinspirehealth.com to submit a topic, share feedback, or learn more about opportunities to connect live with us. We go live every week within our community. We host office hours, support groups, and workshops, joining together live with the sole intention of serving our community. We would love to have you, and we hope to see you soon. If this episode has helped you, the best thing you can do is leave us a review. It helps other families find the show. And if you know a parent who needs to hear this, share this episode with them. Thank you again for tuning in to Built For Your Family™.
Built For Your Family™ is an educational podcast. The information and strategies shared here are for informational purposes only, and are not a substitute for individualized clinical care. Lily and Dr. Jill are licensed clinicians, but nothing in this podcast creates a clinical relationship or constitutes therapy, diagnosis, or medical advice. If your child needs direct medical support, we encourage you to work with a qualified professional in your area. Built For Your Family™ is a Kinspire original podcast hosted by Lily Baiser and Dr. Jill Gitten Aloia. Produced and edited by me, Jennifer Mingucci. New episodes drop every week. Find us wherever you listen to podcasts and visit us at kinspirehealth.com to learn more.

